Carol Roth: Trump is right to fear high rates but the hidden cost is brutal

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Donald Trump’s nomination of former Federal Reserve governor Kevin Warsh as Fed chair signaled a clear desire for lower interest rates and a break with Jerome Powell’s tenure. In a Fox News op-ed, Carol Roth argues that Trump is right to fear what high rates do to the federal budget, warning that “massive deficits” and soaring interest costs are turning monetary policy into a fiscal time bomb. Her case, however, comes with a stark twist: the interventions that might relieve that pressure could carry a hidden and potentially brutal cost for growth, prices and inequality.

Trump’s Push for Lower Rates Amid Fed Transition

The White House used the formal announcement of Kevin Warsh’s nomination to frame the coming Fed transition as a chance to reset policy in favor of faster growth and easier credit. In its own account of the decision, the administration highlighted wide acclaim for President Trump’s nomination of Kevin Warsh as Fed chair, emphasizing Warsh’s prior service on the Fed’s Board of Governors from 2006 to 2011 and presenting him as a steady hand who could steer rates lower without spooking markets. That positioning matches Roth’s description of Warsh as the vehicle for Trump’s expectations that the central bank will stop “punishing” the economy with higher borrowing costs.

The path from nomination to power, however, is already tangled in politics and oversight. According to High quality reporting on the Senate bottleneck, Warsh’s confirmation has been slowed by senators who want the Justice Department to complete an investigation into Jerome Powell’s handling of cost overruns tied to a major Fed building renovation. That reporting describes how the Senate has linked movement on Warsh’s nomination to clarity from the Justice Department, with figures such as Thom Tillis and Scott Bessent publicly pressing for accountability around the renovation before signing off on a new chair. The result is a rare moment when the politics of Fed leadership, a Justice Department probe and Trump’s demand for lower rates are colliding in full view.

The Growing Burden of Debt Servicing Costs

Roth’s core claim is that high interest rates have turned federal debt service into a fiscal shock absorber that is starting to fail. She argues that “massive deficits” are colliding with a “refinancing wall” as older, cheaper debt rolls into today’s higher rates, sharply raising the government’s interest bill. Treasury’s own data back up the scale of that shift: the Monthly Treasury Statement, available through the primary government gateway for receipts and outlays, shows net interest payments climbing to the point where they are overtaking defense spending in key periods, even before a recession. Roth anchors her warning in those official numbers, contending that the budget is increasingly hostage to bond markets rather than elected lawmakers.

Longer term projections show why she sees this as a structural problem rather than a passing spike. The latest baseline from the Congressional Budget Office, summarized in a credible report on the CBO’s forecast, projects federal debt climbing to about 122 percent of GDP by 2034, with interest costs taking up a larger share of the budget as the decade progresses. That same CBO analysis identifies interest payments, along with Social Security and Medicare, as central drivers of future deficits, which is why Roth points to official projections as evidence that high rates cannot be treated as a neutral technocratic choice. In her view, they are now a direct threat to fiscal sustainability because every additional percentage point on borrowing costs compounds over a massive and growing debt stock.

Ferguson’s Law and Historical Precedent

To frame the stakes, Roth leans on historian Niall Ferguson’s argument that there is a recurring pattern in the decline of great powers. In a 2010 essay, Ferguson wrote that in past empires “debt has always been the ruin of great powers,” and he highlighted the moment when interest payments exceed defense spending as a particularly ominous signal. That thesis, often referred to by Roth as “Ferguson’s Law,” is laid out in Ferguson’s own account of how rising debt service can sap a state’s capacity to project power, which he describes in detail on his site Earliest Ferguson Law use. Roth borrows that framing to argue that the United States is approaching the warning zone Ferguson identified in earlier empires.

Current U.S. numbers are not identical to Ferguson’s historical examples, but they move in the direction he highlighted. The CBO baseline described in the CBO-focused reporting shows interest costs rising to roughly 3.2 percent of GDP by the middle of the decade, while defense spending grows more slowly as a share of the economy. Roth connects these projections to Ferguson’s threshold, arguing that the United States is on track to spend more on servicing past borrowing than on its current military posture, and that this shift has strategic as well as fiscal implications. Ferguson himself does not claim that such a crossing automatically triggers collapse, but he does treat it as a sign that a government’s priorities and capacities are drifting out of alignment.

Hidden Costs of Rate Interventions

Roth does not stop at criticizing high rates; she also warns that the likely escape routes carry their own dangers. In her canonical Fox News op-ed, she predicts that political pressure will eventually push the Fed toward some form of yield-curve control or other market intervention designed to cap long-term rates even if the policy rate comes down. She argues that such moves are tempting because they appear to relieve the Treasury’s refinancing burden, but she contends that the real price is paid through higher inflation and a loss of market discipline. Her scenario is that once investors believe the Fed will buy bonds to suppress yields, they will demand compensation elsewhere, including in the form of a weaker dollar and higher prices for goods and assets.

Recent reporting on Warsh’s policy thinking shows why Roth focuses on the Fed’s balance sheet rather than just its target rate. According to a detailed account of his views on asset holdings, Warsh has signaled that he favors reducing the Fed’s portfolio of mortgage-backed securities, or MBS holdings, even as he entertains the idea of cutting the federal funds rate. That combination could paradoxically push long-term mortgage rates higher, because shrinking MBS holdings removes a major source of demand from the housing finance market. The same reporting notes that 30-year mortgage rates have already risen by about 0.5 percentage point after earlier episodes of balance-sheet tightening, contributing to weaker housing affordability. Roth seizes on these dynamics to argue that the headline move of “lower rates” can mask a more complicated and potentially painful set of financial conditions for households.

Why It Matters for the Economy and Inequality

For Roth, the fiscal and monetary story eventually lands on everyday purchasing power. She argues that if policymakers lean on interventions to keep the government’s interest bill manageable, the most likely outlet is higher inflation that erodes workers’ real wages and savings. In her op-ed she describes this as a “hidden tax” that lands hardest on people who do not own large portfolios of assets that can reprice with inflation. That view aligns with the CBO’s breakdown, reported in the CBO baseline coverage, which shows Social Security and Medicare already accounting for about 50 percent of federal outlays. With such a large share of spending locked in to inflation-linked or politically sensitive programs, Roth argues that policymakers will have strong incentives to let rising prices quietly shrink the real value of the debt rather than openly cutting benefits or raising taxes.

Other experts quoted in the same fiscal reporting echo parts of that concern even if they do not endorse all of Roth’s predictions. Investor Scott Bessent, cited in the Senate confirmation coverage, has questioned whether current fiscal paths are sustainable if interest costs keep rising faster than revenues. Ferguson, in his essay on great powers and debt, similarly warns that societies often use inflation as a politically easier alternative to explicit default or austerity. Roth synthesizes these views into a blunt claim: either the United States tolerates higher rates and faces a visible fiscal crunch, or it intervenes more aggressively and risks a slower, more regressive squeeze on living standards that widens inequality.

Uncertainties and Path Forward

Despite Roth’s confident tone, several key pieces of her argument rest on moving targets and unresolved investigations. The Senate’s handling of Warsh’s nomination is a prime example. As the high quality Senate reporting makes clear, senators have tied progress on the nomination to the Justice Department’s probe of Jerome Powell over renovation cost overruns at the Fed, but there is no firm timeline for when that investigation will conclude or how it will affect Warsh’s prospects. That uncertainty matters because Roth treats Warsh’s eventual confirmation as a near-given when she sketches out likely interventions, yet the political and legal process could still alter who actually sets policy.

There is also debate around the economic assumptions that underpin the official projections Roth cites. The CBO baseline report she leans on assumes average real GDP growth of about 2.1 percent, while more optimistic commentators argue that faster growth closer to 3 percent could ease the debt-to-GDP ratio over time. Roth acknowledges these differences but dismisses the higher-growth scenarios as wishful thinking, and she treats CBO’s interest cost path as a floor rather than a midpoint. Similarly, her forecast of eventual yield-curve control or aggressive balance-sheet interventions is speculative, even if it is grounded in historical examples and Warsh’s comments about reducing MBS holdings. The Justice Department’s investigation of Powell, the Senate’s next steps, and the actual trajectory of growth and inflation all remain unresolved, which means the “brutal” hidden cost Roth warns about is better understood as a live risk than a settled fate.

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